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UPDATE 2-9-05:


Since this Seller shows no signs of common business sense and decency, ...and has still not replied to my request for him to define "full refund", ...and obviously responds to the disputes reflected in his several Negative eBay Feedbacks by spouting meaningless beligerence, which I suspected from his first curt reply;  Then I too now take the liberty to use language more in line with what I now think of this scumbag so far ...(still notwistanding offering him/her maybe having an extenuating hard time with inadequate IQ to deal with it ...which I guess most of us have from time to time)


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ebay auction:  Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!! (Item #3772337452) -- 1-3-05


Judging by this Seller's eBay experience, I was hoping he/she would have had a logical extenuating circumstance to explain and make right, ...or point out any fault of mine;  But what you see in the auction and emails provided below ...is what I got:  An item that was mistrepresented AND broken at the time the auction was posted;  No damage to outside wrapping that would show additional damage in shipment.  Detailed emails with pictures were sent to Seller offering solutions in the best of Good Faith.  His/her replied solution was "send it back", as though I would pay > $50 roundtrip shipping just to discover an item that was broken before it was auctioned, ...and which was in poor condition while reported in the auction as being in good condition, with it's serious damage not shown in the auction's pictures.  It is my opinion that an unreasonably misrepresented auction pre-empts an "as-is" transaction.

The ONLY shipping packaging this bonehead used was to wrap it in "saran" wrap.

See if you could have determined the discrepencies in the auction description shown below.

As always;  If this Seller makes the deal right in a reasonable amount of time, I will be most happy to replace this report with that solution.

Update:  The Seller has replied with offering an unspecified "full refund".  Seller refuses to define what scope his "full refund" means (see emails further below).  I was hoping that this character was just having bad days, or a reasonable misunderstanding, personality / mannerisms conflict or other reasonable circumstance was at work here, and that this eBayer would turn out to be among the vast majority of good folks on eBay, as most disputes turn out to reveal.

Update: WRONG ! ! !;  The Seller still refuses to send a definition of "full refund", ...and with good cause I don't trust him/her any further than I could toss a beligerent, foul-mouth, sack of turkey poop. Check out his/her emails provided below.

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UPDATE 3-23-05:  Check out the *print screen* copy of the email I got from this "genius" today.  Now I can publish more of his ID data within ebay rules because he made it available outside ebay.  Full and complete details of this bonehead's auction are provided below his short email here:
Shown below are the ebay auction award email, and my emails to the
Seller with several suggestions for a fair solution, and his/her replies.
(Red color in text below is by me for emphasis, and not original to the emails):


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----- Original Message -----
From: <endofauction @ ebay.com>
To: <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:41 PM
Subject: eBay Item Won! Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!! (Item #3772337452)

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Congratulations geetarpicker!

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Dear geetarpicker,
You have committed to buy the following eBay item from tune_o_matic (email censored for privacy courtesy) on Jan-03-05 18:41:16 PST:

Please review the seller's payment instructions below. Pay using PayPal, cashier's check/Money order

https://payments.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?UnifiedCheckoutShippingDispatcher&item=3772337452&transactionid=0&quantity=1
&level=1&editAddress=0&newpurchaseok=0&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:1

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LISTING DETAILS
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Item name:                             Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!!
Item number:                           3772337452
End date:                              Jan-03-05 18:41:16 PST
Seller:                                tune_o_matic
Seller email:                          mailto:(Censored for SPAM courtesy)
Buyer:                                 geetarpicker
Buyer email:                           mailto:dennysguitars @ earthlink.net

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Item price:                            US $127.50
Quantity:                              1
Subtotal:                              US $127.50

Shipping and Handling:                
Standard flat rate shipping service: US $25.00

- Shipping insurance per item:         US $2.00 (optional)
Sales tax:                             (None)


Ship-to zip code:                      96791

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----- Original Message -----
From: <aw-confirm @ ebay.com>
To: <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: Your invoice for eBay purchases - item #3772337452, Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!!



Dear geetarpicker,

Thank you for your purchase. The total for your item below is US $154.50.

To ensure fast delivery, please go to the URL below to complete payment:

https://payments.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?UnifiedCheckoutShippingDispatcher &item=3772337452&transactionid=0&quantity=1

You can pay me securely with any major credit card through PayPal.
I accept the following payment methods: PayPal, See item description, Cashier's Check/Money Order.


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Item #/Item Title                              Qty     Price
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3772337452                                       1US $127.50
Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!!

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Subtotal: US $127.50
Shipping and handling via Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service : US $25.00
Shipping insurance (Optional US $2.00): --

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Total: US $154.50


When mailing your payment, please make money order/cashiers check payable to:
(Name censored for courtesy)

Mailing address:
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IMPORTANT NOTE: Please include your mailing address and a referance to what your payment is for when mailing your payment. Payments received without this information will only cause a delay in shipping!

Thank you for bidding and winning!

Please email me at (Censored for SPAM courtesy) if you have any questions.

I offer the following shipping options:
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Thank you again for your purchase.

tune_o_matic

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[Original Message]
From: Denny T~ <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: receipt <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Date: 1/16/2005 9:22:47 AM
Subject: Received -- in pretty bad shape -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case

Good Evening  (name censored for courtesy),

Please accept this email as a gesture of the best of Good Faith.  It is my nature and practice to put everything out in the open, up front;  Which has proven for me to be the best way to do business and resolve problems quickly.  I trust you appreciate that manner too.

I received this case 3 days ago, but have been pondering how we might handle my dis-satisfaction with the manner the description of this item was written and failed to mention quite obvious discrepencies any good Seller would have disclosed and any reasonably astute Buyer would have expected;  And it appears the discrepencies were known to you (IMHO) since your description said this case held a custom shop Strat and therefore the lid had to have been opened and it's blatantly broken top realized. ( Gotta respect the guy who thoroughly man-handled / played his guitar though ! ).  And I think it's also quite fair to assume if you knew to mention the cleaning that had to be done to this case, you would have noticed the rips and tears all over this case as well, and noticed the interior top lining hanging loose.  The worst of the rips and tears are on both ends hidden from camera view in the auction's pictures, as is the hanging lid lining not being readily apparant in the auction pictures (*attached* to this email with my comments embossed).

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Your auction stated:

"Case is in good condition".  .... (and) .... "Tweed could use a cleaning".

Cleaning is one thing, but judging with my 45 years professional Guitar playing / teaching / tech / repairing / merchandising career, this case would have had a 'Fair' condition at best with the BROKEN lid top, separated lid lining, and number of small rips and tears all over this case particularly those hidden from view in the auction pictures.  If the tweed needing cleaning is worthy of mention, then any Buyer could reasonably expect any worse issues to be disclosed as well.  The case is not in "Good" condition by professional / industry-standard guitar ratings, and certainly not in "Good" condition by any stretch of imagination for general merchandise.  I have verified my opinion with the planet's most famous guitar broker who was a roady for me 40 years ago before gaining his own fame.

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I could have bought the same case brand new from G&G for $99 +s/h/i;  But I wanted a case in the Good condition (industry standard or general merchandise rating) you advertised, with some wear / use showing, (rather than counterfeit wear for the Authentic market) and I trusted your "Good-condition / needs cleaning" desription.

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Your auction description's "Sold As Is ... Sale Is Final"  holds up under eBay policy, federal law and most state laws, only if reasonable disclosure was made in an item's description.  You may verify this in eBay's resources or by inquiring with the FBI / IFCC at:
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/contactus.asp

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Please see my eBay feedback and notice my excellent reputation, even with the few entries there that learned I do know how to resolve problems quite well in the best of good faith.

Since I have no intention to eat shipping it back to you and hassling over it, and;   I doubt it would serve you well to get this case back and you have to expend the time and resources to repair it as I will have to, and;    I suppose you would dislike the hassles of eBay and IFCC complaints and Pay Pal claims as much as I would dislike doing so;

Then it seems to me that better options are:

(1) You to either accept my professional appraisal of this case's value at $70 maximum (which is also about the same value repaired to "Good" condition you reported it to be in, and that repair cost subtracted), ...OR... you could get your own appraisal which I am sure will reflect quite similar to mine if not lower;  And then you refund me the difference between this case's present value and what I paid you for it expecting the Good condition you reported it to be, or;

(2) You could also refund me the cost of repair that I estimate at about $60 to bring it to the condition it was advertised, ... or a professional estimate that you might acquire;  And if we don't agree with a repair cost then I will take it to a professional luggage company for a professional second-opinion repair cost estimate documentation for you at your expense, (or at my expense to accompany an eBay and IFCC complaint which I hope and trust won't be needed).  But please understand that if I have to take the time and drive 50 miles round-trip (to the closest professional luggage shop) to get such a second-opinion appraisal, then I will expect to be refunded what that appraisal reports, or;

(3) You could also get an internet appraisal from nationally recognized George Gruhn, or via telephone to him in conjunction with emailing him your pictures or the *attached* pictures.  I surmise he would likely charge you for such an appraisal.
http://www.gruhn.com/

(4)  I am open to other suggestions you might have.

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I surmise your time is as valuable as mine and that neither of us should have to bander this about very long.

Thank You.  I look forward to hearing from you and reaching an amicalbe solution.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Cntacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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----- Original Message -----
From: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
To: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: Received -- in pretty bad shape -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender
Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Send it back.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: Received -- in pretty bad shape -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Yea, right;  Pay $50 round trip freight to inspect a case that was already broken when auctioned and not disclosed?  I don't think so.  I'll handle it in other manners.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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[Original Message]
From: Denny T~ <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: Censored for SPAM courtesy
Cc: receipt <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Date: 2/6/2005 10:28:23 PM
Subject: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case

Here is one last request for meaningful commo from you to resolve of this
eBay problem before my leaving feedback about the transaction tommorrow and
starting the investigation request process.
Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html


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----- Original Message -----
From:  <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
To: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom
Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


My friend, I told you to send it back over a month ago.
You didn't. What else do you want me to do?

Please don't threaten me with stupid feedbacks, because in case you don't
know, negative feedback goes both ways.
So if you are thinking of leaving a negative, expect one in return.

You can contact eBay from here till eternity.
I told you to send it back for a refund, and you didn't do so.

Also keep in mind, that once a negative feedback is left for me, I cut ALL
LIFE LINES and offer NO FURTHER HELP to the buyer.
You will not see even one cent back and your e-mail address will be blocked.

Think about it, and let me know what you want to do.




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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


For the record, and to assure that the best of Good Faith has been offered:

I don't know why we're having so much difficulty here.  It is a rather simple
matter of an auction sale where "as-is" was unreasonably mis-represented;
Whether accidentally or deliberately is not my concern, just offering and
getting a reasonable solution is.  I spent a fair amount of time figuring out
solutions and details of each and already sent them to you right off (and I
trust you have reviewed).  But to clearly reiterate:  I don't think anyone would
consider it fair to pay 2-way shipping just to discover an item misrepresented
and even broken when sold and not fairly disclosed;  And I've said that in both
my previous emails to you ....along with showing you the broken item in your own
auction pictures.  And why would I choose to spend that $50 or-so shipping and
wind up with nothing when I could spend about another $20 (total $70) to either
job-out the repair or my shop time to do it myself (which is what I plan to do
in light of your responses)?  So your idea of "shipping back" solution simply
doesn't make much sense on this end;  Which leaves me to honestly report via
eBay feedback how this deal turned out as any reasonable person would naturally
/ normally expect.  EBay's feedback isn't some sort of jousting, it's simply a
report of how a transaction went;  And I have no intention of reporting anything
different than an honest report ...which is important for any eBayer to do and
expect.  A major issue here is also the process of everyone doing their part in
doing good eBay / online business and reporting same when it doesn't occur
....certainly more costly in time and motion and just as important as the
monetary values we are dealing with.

And no, I didn't wait a month to respond to you as you said;  I responded
immediately upon receipt of the guitar case, and immediately to your "send it
back" 3 weeks ago ...rather repeating what I said in my first email to you,
...that paying 2 way shipping is simply not reasonable just to discover an item
quite misrepresented and even substantially broken at the time of sale and not
disclosed.  The case had to be opened to remove the strat you reported was
previously in it ... at which time the broken lid would be blatantly obvious ...
not to mention your quite misrepresented condition rating ... most of which was
hidden (not viewable) from camera view in your auction ... all of which are
paramount to good online business.  I am only trying one last time to find a
reasonable solution before I abide by the time-lines prescribed by eBay, and by
the FBI / IFCC (also per eBay's suggestions), to give their reading when the 2
parties of a transaction can't agree;  And in that process ... based upon your
replies ... the time to leave feedback has now arrived and will be done honestly
along with petitions to eBay and the FBI / IFCC for their reading.  EBay's
findings are advisory while the FBI / IFCC findings are law.  It's not threats
as you said;  It's the normal / expected process prescribed by eBay and the FBI
/ IFCC for which I will do my part and gladly accept whatever "official" reading
they find.

At this point I can only take it that your only solution offered is sending it
back at my expense;  And I have said that is not a reasonable solution under the
circumstances of this transaction.  So that is what I will base my eBay feedback
and further aforesaid petitions upon;  And if it turns out I am wrong, I will
gladly correct the feedback and take eBay's reading into serious condiseration
and abide by the FBI / IFCC reading.  Simple;  Honest;  Straight-forward;
Reasonably expected;  Normal process.

You are certainly free to leave whatever feedback you desire and I trust it will
be an honest report;  But if it's not honest then it too will become part of the
petition process as well, .....just as my feedback should be if it is not
honest.  I'm certainly not anxious about feedback because I post the email
exchanges on my website for all to see and judge for themselves.  If I am ever
found to be wrong in my assessment of a bad auction / sale, then I would be just
as quick to post same so that others can learn from that mistake as well.

I think your reluctance to address the key issues in this transaction that you
alone were responsible for, and adjust this sale for repair or closer to it's
as-is real value, speaks for itself in light of the amount of guitar business /
guitar experience you've had on eBay which highly suggests you know what the
industry standard issues are (and were provided to you quickly ... and you have
not rebutted).  That is not my opinion alone;  But also the second opinion I
originally told you I acquired from one of the Planet's top experts in the
guitar business, which in light of your replies, would be part of my further
petitions.

And if you insist:  I hardly deem my experience in this transaction as a
"LIFELINE" you said, ...but quite the contrary.  And I will keep your "NO
FURTHER HELP" in mind as well ....although I sense that I am a bit more flexible
than such statements by you.  I would appreciate you blocking me from your
auctions;  It will save me the trouble of having to remember who to not do
business with.

With all the above said, I still offer a full willingness to back up and make
this transaction right and be able to report same.  We all make mistakes and
have bad times that can be corrected and everyone feel good about in the end.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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----- Original Message -----
From: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
To: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom
Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


I don't even have the time to read your 3 page e-mail.

If you are not happy, I am offering a full refund upon return of goods and
any good retailer would do.
You send it back, you get your $ back. That;s how it works.
Nice & simple.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT 1-8-05: Re: one last request for
resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Thank You.  We both find ourselves in the "same" time constraint boat.

Please tell me if your last stated "full refund" includes 2-way shipping.  If
so, that is fine with me and I will get the case shipped back ASAP.

But might I suggest:  IF "full refund" means 2-way shipping included, then might
I suggest we both split the $70 cost of repair by your refunding my Pay Pal
account $35.  That sure seems to me to be quite fair and less costly to you.

If "full refund" does NOT include 2-way shipping, then our previous emails are
where we're still at and we can simply rest easy awaiting an official ruling
that I will gladly abide by.

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Particularly in light of your "cutting lifelines" and your "not having time to
read emails" etc:  My 9 year old son is undergoing a regime of critical
outpatient emergency surgeries and requires constant 24/7 attention which
consumes most of my time and makes my daily chores quite a challenge.  So at
this point I really can't afford to dink around with this eBay transaction and
am quite comfortable with simply awaiting official readings that I will abide
by.

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You stated:  "I don't even have the time to read your 3 page e-mail."

If you're not going to read communication then I'm certainly not going to take
the time to communicate info and suggestions that most professinal business
people would desire to be communicated in a dispute.  So I will answer your
emails VERY briefly in the future.  If you change your mind about more thorough
communication, please let me know.

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Aloha,
Denny Turner

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: Fw: DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT 1-8-05: Re: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Please disregard the DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT text in the subject line of my previous
email.  I simply forgot to remove the DRAFT reminders when I whittled down the
email and sent it.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html


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----- Original Message -----
From: <Censored for SPAM courtesy
To: <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:37 PM


I must tell you that you are one of the BIGGEST idiots I have ever encountered in my entire life.
That fact that you have the time to sit and write 10 page long e-mails and post this loser thread on your web site just shows that you are a bored moron that has nothing better to do with his life.

I just wanted to let you know that I might be a "DARWIN AWARD CANDIDATE" (which I will very proudly honor since I am a big believer in Darwin's theories).

How ironic it is that Darwin's theories come to life in this case (no pun intended).
While I might be a candidate for a Darwin award, I can BUY & SELL YOU in one second flat.

While you sit @ home jerkin' off over your stupid "Bad transactions" thread I am here cashing in on the vintage guitar market and actually doing something with my time.

I make more money in one day then you make in an entire year.
Why? Because I don't waste my time sitting @ home composing stupid threads on my bullshit web site.

"ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!!"

Do you REALLY think that the FBI, eBay, IFCC, CIA, Interpol, KGB, Scotland Yard or  "The Mosad" give a shit about the piece of shit case you bought from me?? Don't you think they have better things to do with their time? "Stop looking for Osama! We have a Fender case issue to resolve here!" Ha Ha!

Like I told you, you can write to everyone from here till eternity. I'll still be here making tons of money while you write stupid threads.

Now you have a case you are not happy with, AND a negative feedback! Boy, that was smart!
Hope you really enjoy it, 'cause now you can shove it!

Aloha this!

P.S.

You can add this e-mail to your stupid thread (instead of doing something productive with your sorry ass life).
Oh, and don't even bother writing back because your e-mail address is blocked.



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Guestbook
Shown below are the original pictures copied from the original auction and sent to the Seller (email message chain shown further below) that shows the condition of the case not readily apparant until physically inspected;  Particularly showing the shadow caused by the broken lid lip, although the lid lip being broken cannot be seen unless the lid is unlatched.  The substantially ripped and torn sides are not not shown in the auction's camera views.

All of the yellow and red colored text and lines below are my entries sent to Seller to show damaged goods.
Damage in Seller's Image. 1
Damage in Seller's Image. 2
Damage in Seller's Image. 3
Shown below are the ebay auction award email, and my emails to the
Seller with several suggestions for a fair solution, and his/her replies.
(Red color in text below is by me for emphasis, and not original to the emails):


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----- Original Message -----
From: <endofauction @ ebay.com>
To: <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:41 PM
Subject: eBay Item Won! Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!! (Item #3772337452)

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Congratulations geetarpicker!

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Dear geetarpicker,
You have committed to buy the following eBay item from tune_o_matic (email censored for privacy courtesy) on Jan-03-05 18:41:16 PST:

Please review the seller's payment instructions below. Pay using PayPal, cashier's check/Money order

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Item name:                             Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!!
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----- Original Message -----
From: <aw-confirm @ ebay.com>
To: <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: Your invoice for eBay purchases - item #3772337452, Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!!



Dear geetarpicker,

Thank you for your purchase. The total for your item below is US $154.50.

To ensure fast delivery, please go to the URL below to complete payment:

https://payments.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?UnifiedCheckoutShippingDispatcher &item=3772337452&transactionid=0&quantity=1

You can pay me securely with any major credit card through PayPal.
I accept the following payment methods: PayPal, See item description, Cashier's Check/Money Order.


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Item #/Item Title                              Qty     Price
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3772337452                                       1US $127.50
Orig. Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!!

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Subtotal: US $127.50
Shipping and handling via Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service : US $25.00
Shipping insurance (Optional US $2.00): --

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Total: US $154.50


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[Original Message]
From: Denny T~ <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: receipt <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Date: 1/16/2005 9:22:47 AM
Subject: Received -- in pretty bad shape -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case

Good Evening  (name censored for courtesy),

Please accept this email as a gesture of the best of Good Faith.  It is my nature and practice to put everything out in the open, up front;  Which has proven for me to be the best way to do business and resolve problems quickly.  I trust you appreciate that manner too.

I received this case 3 days ago, but have been pondering how we might handle my dis-satisfaction with the manner the description of this item was written and failed to mention quite obvious discrepencies any good Seller would have disclosed and any reasonably astute Buyer would have expected;  And it appears the discrepencies were known to you (IMHO) since your description said this case held a custom shop Strat and therefore the lid had to have been opened and it's blatantly broken top realized. ( Gotta respect the guy who thoroughly man-handled / played his guitar though ! ).  And I think it's also quite fair to assume if you knew to mention the cleaning that had to be done to this case, you would have noticed the rips and tears all over this case as well, and noticed the interior top lining hanging loose.  The worst of the rips and tears are on both ends hidden from camera view in the auction's pictures, as is the hanging lid lining not being readily apparant in the auction pictures (*attached* to this email with my comments embossed).

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Your auction stated:

"Case is in good condition".  .... (and) .... "Tweed could use a cleaning".

Cleaning is one thing, but judging with my 45 years professional Guitar playing / teaching / tech / repairing / merchandising career, this case would have had a 'Fair' condition at best with the BROKEN lid top, separated lid lining, and number of small rips and tears all over this case particularly those hidden from view in the auction pictures.  If the tweed needing cleaning is worthy of mention, then any Buyer could reasonably expect any worse issues to be disclosed as well.  The case is not in "Good" condition by professional / industry-standard guitar ratings, and certainly not in "Good" condition by any stretch of imagination for general merchandise.  I have verified my opinion with the planet's most famous guitar broker who was a roady for me 40 years ago before gaining his own fame.

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I could have bought the same case brand new from G&G for $99 +s/h/i;  But I wanted a case in the Good condition (industry standard or general merchandise rating) you advertised, with some wear / use showing, (rather than counterfeit wear for the Authentic market) and I trusted your "Good-condition / needs cleaning" desription.

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Your auction description's "Sold As Is ... Sale Is Final"  holds up under eBay policy, federal law and most state laws, only if reasonable disclosure was made in an item's description.  You may verify this in eBay's resources or by inquiring with the FBI / IFCC at:
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/contactus.asp

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Please see my eBay feedback and notice my excellent reputation, even with the few entries there that learned I do know how to resolve problems quite well in the best of good faith.

Since I have no intention to eat shipping it back to you and hassling over it, and;   I doubt it would serve you well to get this case back and you have to expend the time and resources to repair it as I will have to, and;    I suppose you would dislike the hassles of eBay and IFCC complaints and Pay Pal claims as much as I would dislike doing so;

Then it seems to me that better options are:

(1) You to either accept my professional appraisal of this case's value at $70 maximum (which is also about the same value repaired to "Good" condition you reported it to be in, and that repair cost subtracted), ...OR... you could get your own appraisal which I am sure will reflect quite similar to mine if not lower;  And then you refund me the difference between this case's present value and what I paid you for it expecting the Good condition you reported it to be, or;

(2) You could also refund me the cost of repair that I estimate at about $60 to bring it to the condition it was advertised, ... or a professional estimate that you might acquire;  And if we don't agree with a repair cost then I will take it to a professional luggage company for a professional second-opinion repair cost estimate documentation for you at your expense, (or at my expense to accompany an eBay and IFCC complaint which I hope and trust won't be needed).  But please understand that if I have to take the time and drive 50 miles round-trip (to the closest professional luggage shop) to get such a second-opinion appraisal, then I will expect to be refunded what that appraisal reports, or;

(3) You could also get an internet appraisal from nationally recognized George Gruhn, or via telephone to him in conjunction with emailing him your pictures or the *attached* pictures.  I surmise he would likely charge you for such an appraisal.
http://www.gruhn.com/

(4)  I am open to other suggestions you might have.

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I surmise your time is as valuable as mine and that neither of us should have to bander this about very long.

Thank You.  I look forward to hearing from you and reaching an amicalbe solution.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Cntacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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----- Original Message -----
From: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
To: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: Received -- in pretty bad shape -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender
Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Send it back.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: Received -- in pretty bad shape -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Yea, right;  Pay $50 round trip freight to inspect a case that was already broken when auctioned and not disclosed?  I don't think so.  I'll handle it in other manners.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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[Original Message]
From: Denny T~ <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: Censored for SPAM courtesy
Cc: receipt <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Date: 2/6/2005 10:28:23 PM
Subject: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case

Here is one last request for meaningful commo from you to resolve of this
eBay problem before my leaving feedback about the transaction tommorrow and
starting the investigation request process.
Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html


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----- Original Message -----
From:  <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
To: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom
Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


My friend, I told you to send it back over a month ago.
You didn't. What else do you want me to do?

Please don't threaten me with stupid feedbacks, because in case you don't
know, negative feedback goes both ways.
So if you are thinking of leaving a negative, expect one in return.

You can contact eBay from here till eternity.
I told you to send it back for a refund, and you didn't do so.

Also keep in mind, that once a negative feedback is left for me, I cut ALL
LIFE LINES and offer NO FURTHER HELP to the buyer.
You will not see even one cent back and your e-mail address will be blocked.

Think about it, and let me know what you want to do.




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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars @ earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


For the record, and to assure that the best of Good Faith has been offered:

I don't know why we're having so much difficulty here.  It is a rather simple
matter of an auction sale where "as-is" was unreasonably mis-represented;
Whether accidentally or deliberately is not my concern, just offering and
getting a reasonable solution is.  I spent a fair amount of time figuring out
solutions and details of each and already sent them to you right off (and I
trust you have reviewed).  But to clearly reiterate:  I don't think anyone would
consider it fair to pay 2-way shipping just to discover an item misrepresented
and even broken when sold and not fairly disclosed;  And I've said that in both
my previous emails to you ....along with showing you the broken item in your own
auction pictures.  And why would I choose to spend that $50 or-so shipping and
wind up with nothing when I could spend about another $20 (total $70) to either
job-out the repair or my shop time to do it myself (which is what I plan to do
in light of your responses)?  So your idea of "shipping back" solution simply
doesn't make much sense on this end;  Which leaves me to honestly report via
eBay feedback how this deal turned out as any reasonable person would naturally
/ normally expect.  EBay's feedback isn't some sort of jousting, it's simply a
report of how a transaction went;  And I have no intention of reporting anything
different than an honest report ...which is important for any eBayer to do and
expect.  A major issue here is also the process of everyone doing their part in
doing good eBay / online business and reporting same when it doesn't occur
....certainly more costly in time and motion and just as important as the
monetary values we are dealing with.

And no, I didn't wait a month to respond to you as you said;  I responded
immediately upon receipt of the guitar case, and immediately to your "send it
back" 3 weeks ago ...rather repeating what I said in my first email to you,
...that paying 2 way shipping is simply not reasonable just to discover an item
quite misrepresented and even substantially broken at the time of sale and not
disclosed.  The case had to be opened to remove the strat you reported was
previously in it ... at which time the broken lid would be blatantly obvious ...
not to mention your quite misrepresented condition rating ... most of which was
hidden (not viewable) from camera view in your auction ... all of which are
paramount to good online business.  I am only trying one last time to find a
reasonable solution before I abide by the time-lines prescribed by eBay, and by
the FBI / IFCC (also per eBay's suggestions), to give their reading when the 2
parties of a transaction can't agree;  And in that process ... based upon your
replies ... the time to leave feedback has now arrived and will be done honestly
along with petitions to eBay and the FBI / IFCC for their reading.  EBay's
findings are advisory while the FBI / IFCC findings are law.  It's not threats
as you said;  It's the normal / expected process prescribed by eBay and the FBI
/ IFCC for which I will do my part and gladly accept whatever "official" reading
they find.

At this point I can only take it that your only solution offered is sending it
back at my expense;  And I have said that is not a reasonable solution under the
circumstances of this transaction.  So that is what I will base my eBay feedback
and further aforesaid petitions upon;  And if it turns out I am wrong, I will
gladly correct the feedback and take eBay's reading into serious condiseration
and abide by the FBI / IFCC reading.  Simple;  Honest;  Straight-forward;
Reasonably expected;  Normal process.

You are certainly free to leave whatever feedback you desire and I trust it will
be an honest report;  But if it's not honest then it too will become part of the
petition process as well, .....just as my feedback should be if it is not
honest.  I'm certainly not anxious about feedback because I post the email
exchanges on my website for all to see and judge for themselves.  If I am ever
found to be wrong in my assessment of a bad auction / sale, then I would be just
as quick to post same so that others can learn from that mistake as well.

I think your reluctance to address the key issues in this transaction that you
alone were responsible for, and adjust this sale for repair or closer to it's
as-is real value, speaks for itself in light of the amount of guitar business /
guitar experience you've had on eBay which highly suggests you know what the
industry standard issues are (and were provided to you quickly ... and you have
not rebutted).  That is not my opinion alone;  But also the second opinion I
originally told you I acquired from one of the Planet's top experts in the
guitar business, which in light of your replies, would be part of my further
petitions.

And if you insist:  I hardly deem my experience in this transaction as a
"LIFELINE" you said, ...but quite the contrary.  And I will keep your "NO
FURTHER HELP" in mind as well ....although I sense that I am a bit more flexible
than such statements by you.  I would appreciate you blocking me from your
auctions;  It will save me the trouble of having to remember who to not do
business with.

With all the above said, I still offer a full willingness to back up and make
this transaction right and be able to report same.  We all make mistakes and
have bad times that can be corrected and everyone feel good about in the end.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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----- Original Message -----
From: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
To: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom
Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


I don't even have the time to read your 3 page e-mail.

If you are not happy, I am offering a full refund upon return of goods and
any good retailer would do.
You send it back, you get your $ back. That;s how it works.
Nice & simple.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT 1-8-05: Re: one last request for
resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Thank You.  We both find ourselves in the "same" time constraint boat.

Please tell me if your last stated "full refund" includes 2-way shipping.  If
so, that is fine with me and I will get the case shipped back ASAP.

But might I suggest:  IF "full refund" means 2-way shipping included, then might
I suggest we both split the $70 cost of repair by your refunding my Pay Pal
account $35.  That sure seems to me to be quite fair and less costly to you.

If "full refund" does NOT include 2-way shipping, then our previous emails are
where we're still at and we can simply rest easy awaiting an official ruling
that I will gladly abide by.

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Particularly in light of your "cutting lifelines" and your "not having time to
read emails" etc:  My 9 year old son is undergoing a regime of critical
outpatient emergency surgeries and requires constant 24/7 attention which
consumes most of my time and makes my daily chores quite a challenge.  So at
this point I really can't afford to dink around with this eBay transaction and
am quite comfortable with simply awaiting official readings that I will abide
by.

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You stated:  "I don't even have the time to read your 3 page e-mail."

If you're not going to read communication then I'm certainly not going to take
the time to communicate info and suggestions that most professinal business
people would desire to be communicated in a dispute.  So I will answer your
emails VERY briefly in the future.  If you change your mind about more thorough
communication, please let me know.

-------

Aloha,
Denny Turner

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny T~" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
To: <Censored for SPAM courtesy>
Cc: "receipt" <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: Fw: DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT 1-8-05: Re: one last request for resolve -----> eBay #3772337452, Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case


Please disregard the DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT text in the subject line of my previous
email.  I simply forgot to remove the DRAFT reminders when I whittled down the
email and sent it.

Aloha,
Denny T~

Contacts, hours and time differences:
http://www.dennysguitars.homestead.com/dadscoffee1.html


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----- Original Message -----
From: <Censored for SPAM courtesy
To: <dennysguitars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:37 PM


I must tell you that you are one of the BIGGEST idiots I have ever encountered in my entire life.
That fact that you have the time to sit and write 10 page long e-mails and post this loser thread on your web site just shows that you are a bored moron that has nothing better to do with his life.

I just wanted to let you know that I might be a "DARWIN AWARD CANDIDATE" (which I will very proudly honor since I am a big believer in Darwin's theories).

How ironic it is that Darwin's theories come to life in this case (no pun intended).
While I might be a candidate for a Darwin award, I can BUY & SELL YOU in one second flat.

While you sit @ home jerkin' off over your stupid "Bad transactions" thread I am here cashing in on the vintage guitar market and actually doing something with my time.

I make more money in one day then you make in an entire year.
Why? Because I don't waste my time sitting @ home composing stupid threads on my bullshit web site.

"ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!!"

Do you REALLY think that the FBI, eBay, IFCC, CIA, Interpol, KGB, Scotland Yard or  "The Mosad" give a shit about the piece of shit case you bought from me?? Don't you think they have better things to do with their time? "Stop looking for Osama! We have a Fender case issue to resolve here!" Ha Ha!

Like I told you, you can write to everyone from here till eternity. I'll still be here making tons of money while you write stupid threads.

Now you have a case you are not happy with, AND a negative feedback! Boy, that was smart!
Hope you really enjoy it, 'cause now you can shove it!

Aloha this!

P.S.

You can add this e-mail to your stupid thread (instead of doing something productive with your sorry ass life).
Oh, and don't even bother writing back because your e-mail address is blocked.



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ebay transaction with ebay seller 'tune_o_matic'
(NOTE: The above identification data was provided to me by this person outside ebay business
and ebay has confimed in writing that they claim no authority over such communications.)

ebay auction:  Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Telecaster Case!! (Item #3772337452) -- 1-3-05


Judging by this Seller's eBay experience, I was hoping he/she would have had a logical extenuating circumstance to explain and make right, ...or point out any fault of mine;  But what you see in the auction and emails provided below ...is what I got:  An item that was mistrepresented AND broken at the time the auction was posted;  No damage to outside wrapping that would show additional damage in shipment.  Detailed emails with pictures were sent to Seller offering solutions in the best of Good Faith.  His/her replied solution was "send it back", as though I would pay > $50 roundtrip shipping just to discover an item that was broken before it was auctioned, ...and which was in poor condition while reported in the auction as being in good condition, with it's serious damage not shown in the auction's pictures.  It is my opinion that an unreasonably misrepresented auction pre-empts an "as-is" transaction.

The ONLY shipping packaging this bonehead used was to wrap it in "saran" wrap.

See if you could have determined the discrepencies in the auction description shown below.

As always;  If this Seller makes the deal right in a reasonable amount of time, I will be most happy to replace this report with that solution.

Update:  The Seller has replied with offering an unspecified "full refund".  Seller refuses to define what scope his "full refund" means (see emails further below).  I was hoping that this character was just having bad days, or a reasonable misunderstanding, personality / mannerisms conflict or other reasonable circumstance was at work here, and that this eBayer would turn out to be among the vast majority of good folks on eBay, as most disputes turn out to reveal.

Update: WRONG ! ! !;  The Seller still refuses to send a definition of "full refund", ...and with good cause I don't trust him/her any further than I could toss a beligerent, foul-mouth, sack of turkey poop. Check out his/her emails provided below.

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UPDATE 3-23-05:  Check out the *print screen* copy of the email I got from this "genius" today.  Now I can publish more of his ID data within ebay rules because he made it available outside ebay.  Full and complete details of this bonehead's auction are provided below his short email here:

Return to the top of this page.

Return to My Bad Mail-Order Transactions index page.

Visit my ABOUT ME eBay page.

Visit my ebay feedback page.

This is my personal "Bad Mail-Order Transactions" page and is not affiliated with any other entity whatsoever.
The eBay logo and website(s) are a copyright / trademark of eBay and used here as a copy of my contract in this auction and a derivitive work of public service informational and educational purposes only.

~~~~~~~ Thank You for your visit ~~~~~~~
Notice:  The dark spot above the case's curvature shadow is NOT a mark, but is a shadow of tweed covering that is loose and flapping between the broken lid lip piece and the top piece. Compare with same picture in the auction above.
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Hidden from camera view.
END OF AUCTION LISTING
PLEASE NOTE:  Most mail-order disputes eventually show that the parties are good folks experiencing extenuating circumstances, bad days, etc.  But with the time windows prescribed for by vendors, auction houses and the FBI / IFCC, for complaints;  disputes that run longer than that should be reported and the petition processes begun;  And fair retractions done if/when a bad transaction is resolved.  But there's occasionally scumbags that deserve every bit of creativity in exposing their existance for public good.
A *PRINT SCREEN* COPY OF AUCTION / CONTRACT
I left Negative eBay feedback for this Seller & Transaction as that time-window was ending.
Notice the IQ of his rebuttal reply:
(S)he in turn left retaliatory feedback for me as his/her email above said he/she would.
Notice in the above emails that I repeatedly told this Seller from day-one that my paying shipping just to discover his misrepresentation (sic) in violation of eBay policy and federal law was not acceptable, nor do I think it would be acceptable to eBay and the FBI.  This Seller NEVER offered nor replied to my request for what the scope his subsequent vague "full refund" reply meant, as though I should trust this character after he eeked out only the least of info which most reasonably intelligent folks would consider a red warning flag;  Not to mention that he clearly said he didn't have time to read my several attempts to resolve the matter.  I would rather petition eBay to shut him down for eBay & public good, and get a reading from the FBI Internet Fraud Complaint Center.  If he doesn't want to offer a FULL refund for his own tricks, then I feel sure eBay will.
Seems that maybe this Darwin-Award candidate should exchange his/her prozac for midol, ...if they allow it in child doses.
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Official government investigation petition processes have now been initiated.
UPDATE 2-9-05:


Since this Seller shows no signs of common business sense and decency, ...and has still not replied to my request for him to define "full refund", ...and obviously responds to the disputes reflected in his several Negative eBay Feedbacks by spouting meaningless beligerence, which I suspected from his first curt reply;  Then I too now take the liberty to use language more in line with what I now think of this scumbag so far ...(still notwistanding offering him/her maybe having an extenuating hard time with inadequate IQ to deal with it ...which I guess most of us have from time to time)

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Candidate
DARWIN
AWARD
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The auction ver-batum:
NOTICE and WARNING:  Email commo from this ebay Seller ...shown in the transaction details on this page,
contain vulgarity not suitable for children nor to folks that might rather not read such sick, childish tantrums.


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Although providing email addresses gives authenticity to a person's posting;  Keep in mind that doing so could very well invite childish "adults" to harass you.  For that consideration, this Guestbook doesn't request your email address.
But if you still care to take a verifiable stand and provide an email address in your text, you can and should hide your email address from SPAM spider engines by using [AT] instead of the @ character the spiders search for:
( yourhandle[AT]yourserver.etc ) instead of ( yourhandle@yourserver.etc )
I always suggest that folks have a separate "hotmail" address for public postings on the internet, so that tiny little brains can waste all the time they desire in their replies which won't go to your more-private personal email address.

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